WHERE LEADERS RETHINK HOW STRATEGY WORKS IN THE REAL WORLD

The traditional approach to strategy is broken.

In a world that won’t sit still, leaders can’t rely on outdated models built for stability and control.

Strategy Meets Reality is a podcast for leaders, strategists, and thinkers who want real insight—not theory. Hosted by organisational psychologist and systems thinker Mike Jones, each episode cuts through the noise with honest conversations from people who’ve lived the complexity, made the tough calls, and rethought what strategy means in practice.

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Ep. 19 – Brave Builders of the Future: Louise Le Gat on Shapeshifting Leadership and Navigating System Shifts

Guest: Louise Le Gat

“Stop trying to win at the old game—because the game has changed.”

In this episode, Louise Le Gat—expert in purpose-led leadership—joins Mike Jones to explore what leadership really demands in times of upheaval. They discuss system shifts, inner software upgrades, and why we must create new value, not just manage old systems. A powerful conversation for leaders ready to shape the future.

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Ep. 15 Diagnosing the Real Problem: Michael Negendahl on Risk, Control, and Leading in Complexity

Control is comforting, but often a trap. In this episode, Michael Negendahl joins Mike Jones to explore why so much strategy and safety work is performative, how leaders confuse the perception of control with real progress, and why diagnosing problems comes before declaring solutions. From risk management to distributed intelligence, this is a candid look at leading in complexity.

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Ep. 14 Rethinking Innovation: Paul Frobisher on Strategy, Thinking better, and Organising for Uncertainty

Innovation is often misunderstood—as a buzzword, a campaign, or a flashy showcase of creativity. But real innovation is about solving the right problems.

In this episode, Paul Frobisher—engineer, innovator, and founder of Strategic Innovation—joins Mike Jones to explore why so many organisations mismanage innovation. They unpack how poor problem definition, disconnected strategy, and emotional resistance undermine progress—and why frameworks like TRIZ and IDEF0 help bring discipline and clarity. From hydrogen futures to innovation ecosystems, this is a grounded conversation on what it takes to innovate with intent in an uncertain world.

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Ep. 13 Orientation is Everything: Mark McGrath on Boyd’s OODA, Disruption, and Strategic Adaptation

You can’t plan your way through uncertainty—but you can orient through it.

In this episode, strategist and former Marine Mark McGrath joins Mike Jones to explore how leaders can use John Boyd’s thinking to stay adaptive in a fast-moving world. They unpack the power of orientation, the illusion of prediction, and how small changes ripple through complex systems. From Wall Street to military lessons, this is a grounded conversation about strategy, learning, and the hidden forces that shape organisational survival.

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Ep. 12 Designing Strategy: Leanne Sobel on Fusing Design Thinking with Strategic Practice

Strategy isn’t just a plan—it’s a practice.
In this episode, Leanne Sobel joins Mike Jones to explore how design reshapes strategy from a static product into a dynamic, participatory process. They unpack the power of reflection, feedback, and stakeholder sensemaking—and why design thinking, done right, isn’t fluff—it’s strategic rigour in action.

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Meet your Host:

Mike Jones

Mike Jones is a systems thinker, organisational psychologist, and former British Army soldier.

He’s worked as a strategy and execution advisor to senior executives across rail, tech, and government to rethink how strategy actually works in complexity.


He founded LBI Consulting and author of the upcoming book When Strategy Meets Reality.

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