WHERE LEADERS RETHINK HOW STRATEGY WORKS IN THE REAL WORLD
The traditional approach to strategy is broken.
In a world that won’t sit still, leaders can’t rely on outdated models built for stability and control.
Strategy Meets Reality is a podcast for leaders, strategists, and thinkers who want real insight—not theory. Hosted by organisational psychologist and systems thinker Mike Jones, each episode cuts through the noise with honest conversations from people who’ve lived the complexity, made the tough calls, and rethought what strategy means in practice.
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Meet your Host:
Mike Jones
Mike Jones is a systems thinker, organisational psychologist, and former British Army soldier.
He’s worked as a strategy and execution advisor to senior executives across rail, tech, and government to rethink how strategy actually works in complexity.
He founded LBI Consulting and author of the upcoming book When Strategy Meets Reality.
All Episodes
Ep. 22 Wayfinding in Complexity: Elsa Henderson on Strategy, Capacity, and Practical Wisdom
Strategy isn’t just about knowing where you’re going—it’s about learning how to find your way.
In this episode, Elsa Henderson—researcher, facilitator, and co-founder of Circle Generation—joins Mike Jones to explore the art of wayfinding in dynamic, uncertain environments. They discuss how leaders can develop anticipatory capacity, engage with change without a rigid map, and pay attention to the aesthetic, felt dimensions of leadership. A rich conversation on perception, practice, and the wisdom to act when certainty is out of reach.
Ep. 21 Value as the Compass: Hunter Hastings on Systems Thinking, Autonomy, and Organising for Impact
Hunter Hastings challenges the profit-first mindset, showing why value creation must be the guiding principle for strategy. In this episode, he and Mike Jones explore systems thinking, autonomy, and leadership’s role in removing barriers to action.
Ep. 20 Planning to Adapt: Johan Ivari on Strategy, Narrative, and the Set-Based Approach
Strategy isn’t about having the answers—it’s about keeping your options open.
In this episode, Johan Ivari—military officer, lecturer, and systems thinker—joins Mike Jones to explore how leaders can design strategy that stays viable under pressure. They dive into set-based planning, viable systems, and narrative-led execution, showing how to create organisations that learn, adapt, and act—not just perform to plan.
Ep. 19 Brave Builders of the Future: Louise Le Gat on Shapeshifting Leadership and Navigating System Shifts
Most leaders are still managing the old system—while the world has already shifted.
In this episode, Louise Le Gat—creator of Positive Impact Leadership—joins Mike Jones to challenge the role of leadership in a shapeshifting world. From upgrading mental models and dismantling survival mechanisms to reinventing value itself, they explore what it takes to lead when the old playbook no longer fits. A grounded and powerful conversation for leaders ready to shape the future—not just survive it.
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