WHERE LEADERS RETHINK HOW STRATEGY WORKS IN THE REAL WORLD

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The traditional approach to strategy is broken.

In a world that won’t sit still, leaders can’t rely on outdated models built for stability and control.

Strategy Meets Reality is a podcast for leaders, strategists, and thinkers who want real insight—not theory. Hosted by organisational psychologist and systems thinker Mike Jones, each episode cuts through the noise with honest conversations from people who’ve lived the complexity, made the tough calls, and rethought what strategy means in practice.

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Meet your Host:

Mike Jones

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Mike Jones is a systems thinker, organisational psychologist, and former British Army soldier.

He’s worked as a strategy and execution advisor to senior executives across rail, tech, and government to rethink how strategy actually works in complexity.


He founded LBI Consulting and author of the upcoming book When Strategy Meets Reality.

All Episodes

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Ep. 36 BS at Work with James Healy: Why Organisations Create Nonsense and How to Fix It

Most organisations design environments that make work harder, not easier.

In this episode, applied behavioural scientist and author James Healy joins Mike Jones to explore why so much of modern work is nonsense. They discuss e-learning that teaches nothing, metrics that distort behaviour, collaboration that never materialises, and the belief that more policies, more controls and more technology will fix human problems. James explains why behaviour is shaped by environment and why the most powerful move leaders can make is to remove what gets in the way.

A practical, entertaining and challenging conversation for leaders who want to design work that actually works.

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Ep. 34 No Bullshit Strategy with Alex Smith: Why Strategy Is a Doing Discipline, Not a Thinking Exercise

Strategy is not a thinking exercise. It is a doing discipline.

In this episode, Alex Smith joins Mike Jones to challenge how organisations approach strategy. They explore why most leaders zoom in when they should zoom out, why customer led thinking kills innovation, and why the real work starts with identifying what is wrong with your industry and making a move that competitors cannot copy. From sacrifice to action, this episode strips strategy back to its essentials.

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Ep. 33 Freedom Within Constraints: Julian Chender on Strategy, Capabilities and Navigating Organisational Reality

In this episode, Julian Chender—organisational design expert and founder of 11A Collaborative—joins Mike Jones to explore how strategy really plays out inside purpose-driven organisations. They dig into how structure, leadership, and capabilities shape execution—and how to create the space for teams to thrive within real-world constraints.

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Ep. 32 Rethinking Value: Andy Wilkins on the Future of Health and Strategy That Learns

Health systems were built to treat sickness—not to promote wellness or resilience.

In this episode, Andy Wilkins—futures strategist and founder of Future of Health—joins Mike Jones to rethink how strategy can help health systems shift from reactive to adaptive. From the Three Horizons model to lived experience, integrated care, and the role of AI, they explore how strategy can create public value that lasts.

This is a grounded conversation on leadership, design, and the future of health.

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