WHERE LEADERS RETHINK HOW STRATEGY WORKS IN THE REAL WORLD
The traditional approach to strategy is broken.
In a world that won’t sit still, leaders can’t rely on outdated models built for stability and control.
Strategy Meets Reality is a podcast for leaders, strategists, and thinkers who want real insight—not theory. Hosted by organisational psychologist and systems thinker Mike Jones, each episode cuts through the noise with honest conversations from people who’ve lived the complexity, made the tough calls, and rethought what strategy means in practice.
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Ep. 31 Reclaiming Strategy: Mike Jones on Perception, Structure, and the Return to Coherence
Host: Mike Jones
“Strategy doesn’t fail in the field—it fails in the boardroom.”
In this reflective solo episode, Mike Jones unpacks what 30 episodes of Strategy Meets Reality have revealed about the real challenges of strategy today. He explores why perception matters more than planning, how structural inertia undermines execution, and why we must stop treating strategy as performance.
From the OODA Loop to Viable System Models, this is a powerful call to rethink how organisations move, adapt, and survive.
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Ep. 29 Against the Grain: Saul Betmead de Chasteigner on Strategy, Structure, and the Psychology of Change
Strategy doesn’t break because of failure—it breaks because success hides the cracks.
In this episode, Saul Betmead de Chasteigner—organisational psychologist and strategic advisor—joins Mike Jones to explore why many transformations fail to deliver lasting change. They dive into the dangers of performance theatre, how feedback is ignored when things seem to be working, and why autonomy without structure is just chaos.
This is a thoughtful, practical conversation for leaders rethinking what it really takes to change how organisations work—not just what they do.
Ep. 26 The Illusion of Progress: Paul Sweeney on Magnetic Nonsense, Corporate Culture, and Critical Thinking
What if the problem isn’t resistance to change—but the nonsense surrounding it?
In this episode, Paul Sweeney—author of Magnetic Nonsense—joins Mike Jones to dissect the myths, buzzwords, and illusions that stop organisations from actually changing. They explore why hero-leader stories fail, how detachment breeds dysfunction, and what it means to lead with clarity and critical thinking.
This is a sharp conversation for leaders ready to challenge the status quo and cut through the noise.
Ep. 25 Antifragile by Design: Janka Krings-Klebe on Governance, Autonomy, and Building Ecosystem Organisations
Antifragile isn’t just a mindset—it’s a design choice.
In this episode, Janka Krings-Klebe—author of The Antifragile Organization—joins Mike Jones to explore what it means to build organisations that thrive through disruption. They discuss why most governance systems unintentionally block innovation, how to balance autonomy and accountability, and why culture and value streams are critical to adaptive performance. It’s a practical, grounded conversation on leading in complexity.
Ep. 11 No Silver Bullet: Reconnecting Strategy, Change, and Leadership with Steve Hearsum
Quick fixes won’t fix your culture. And communication isn’t change.
In this episode, Steve Hearsum joins Mike Jones to challenge the illusions that derail organisational change. They unpack why so many efforts fail, how strategy and leadership become disconnected, and what it really takes to build capability, coherence and commitment—from the inside out.
Steve is the author of No Silver Bullet, a book that asks tough questions most leaders avoid—and offers a way through that doesn’t start with a model, but with honesty.
Meet your Host:
Mike Jones
Mike Jones is a systems thinker, organisational psychologist, and former British Army soldier.
He’s worked as a strategy and execution advisor to senior executives across rail, tech, and government to rethink how strategy actually works in complexity.
He founded LBI Consulting and author of the upcoming book When Strategy Meets Reality.
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